Seeing films
Jan. 12th, 2004 01:25 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
While Mr. A was away this week, I decided to watch all three LotR films on consecutive days. (Watched the EE versions of the first two.)
I've found it works best to think of the EEs as containing two films each - it helps me make more sense particularly of the construction of the narrative and the pacing. Although they are obviously constructed to work as single films - the bookending in TTT of the shot of Frodo with his knife to Gollum's throat at the start, and to Sam's throat at the end being an obvious example.
The Fellowship of the Ring: Superb. That's all I have to say about that. A brilliant adaptation, pacing is great, visuals are stunning, and I still cry buckets for the last heart-breaking half hour.
The Two Towers: I stand by my belief that the cinema cut is a better standalone film. However, I will say that I enjoyed the first half of TTT enormously this time round - everything had a lot more time to move, the pacing seemed graceful and thoughtful this time round. I think my repeated mistake is in trying to watch this film all the way through on a single night, because I finish the first disc and think, "Christ, there's still Helm's Bloody Deep to get through yet..." I also think that there are a couple of quite dodgy bits in this half. The Fell Soup Scene should have hit the cutting room floor - it only detracts from the visual comparisons being made between Arwen and Eowyn, and it sucks. I think some of the dialogue in the Denethor-Boromir-Faramir scene sucks ("Elrond of Rivendell has called a meeting...") and wish I had had just a minute with the script. I'm not going to try watching it in one night again, I think.
The Return of the King: For a change, I went to see this in the local arts cinema rather than in the benighted hell that is the Warners cinema. I was hoping for a better behaved audience, and certainly some quiet (given I was there for an afternoon showing), but was sadly mistaken. Two blokes in front of me talked (not whispered) throughout, and there was much muttering elsewhere. It could just be me, however. Despite the woman behind me saying loudly at one point, "There's going to be a great big spider in a minute, isn't there?", the man next to me still convulsed wildly with surprise when Shelob appeared on screen. But I still wish people would just belt up and watch the fucking film. This ain't your goddam living room.
I really need to get out more.
Anyway. It's difficult to compare RotK as yet with the other two, given that it's not yet the EE. But I rate this film enormously. I did quail a little at one point thinking of the multiple endings that were yet to come, but once I got past that, and just watched them, they did the trick perfectly. Part of the frustration is, of course, that in fact I want more (*coughs* faramir-and-eowyn *cough*), and so they don't entirely satisfy as they stand. Never mind, there's still a DVD to come. Two more films to come, as far as I'm concerned. For which, hurrah!
I turn thirty-two this week, and will spend at least part of my birthday in the cinema. I don't know what to see. You decide!
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I've found it works best to think of the EEs as containing two films each - it helps me make more sense particularly of the construction of the narrative and the pacing. Although they are obviously constructed to work as single films - the bookending in TTT of the shot of Frodo with his knife to Gollum's throat at the start, and to Sam's throat at the end being an obvious example.
The Fellowship of the Ring: Superb. That's all I have to say about that. A brilliant adaptation, pacing is great, visuals are stunning, and I still cry buckets for the last heart-breaking half hour.
The Two Towers: I stand by my belief that the cinema cut is a better standalone film. However, I will say that I enjoyed the first half of TTT enormously this time round - everything had a lot more time to move, the pacing seemed graceful and thoughtful this time round. I think my repeated mistake is in trying to watch this film all the way through on a single night, because I finish the first disc and think, "Christ, there's still Helm's Bloody Deep to get through yet..." I also think that there are a couple of quite dodgy bits in this half. The Fell Soup Scene should have hit the cutting room floor - it only detracts from the visual comparisons being made between Arwen and Eowyn, and it sucks. I think some of the dialogue in the Denethor-Boromir-Faramir scene sucks ("Elrond of Rivendell has called a meeting...") and wish I had had just a minute with the script. I'm not going to try watching it in one night again, I think.
The Return of the King: For a change, I went to see this in the local arts cinema rather than in the benighted hell that is the Warners cinema. I was hoping for a better behaved audience, and certainly some quiet (given I was there for an afternoon showing), but was sadly mistaken. Two blokes in front of me talked (not whispered) throughout, and there was much muttering elsewhere. It could just be me, however. Despite the woman behind me saying loudly at one point, "There's going to be a great big spider in a minute, isn't there?", the man next to me still convulsed wildly with surprise when Shelob appeared on screen. But I still wish people would just belt up and watch the fucking film. This ain't your goddam living room.
I really need to get out more.
Anyway. It's difficult to compare RotK as yet with the other two, given that it's not yet the EE. But I rate this film enormously. I did quail a little at one point thinking of the multiple endings that were yet to come, but once I got past that, and just watched them, they did the trick perfectly. Part of the frustration is, of course, that in fact I want more (*coughs* faramir-and-eowyn *cough*), and so they don't entirely satisfy as they stand. Never mind, there's still a DVD to come. Two more films to come, as far as I'm concerned. For which, hurrah!
I turn thirty-two this week, and will spend at least part of my birthday in the cinema. I don't know what to see. You decide!
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Date: 2004-01-12 01:57 pm (UTC)We must be sorta twins: I turn 28 sometime this week...
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-12 02:05 pm (UTC)So I've answered 'Cold Mountain', because I want to see it myself, and I'll be interested to hear what you think. But hey, it's your birthday - you go and see what you want. But perhaps Mr A should ensure that there are no blunt instruments within your reach.
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:59 pm (UTC)You're right, sorry - bad idea. I hope 'Peter Pan' is good!
Shame about the audience at the Arts the other day. They're doubtless fine for more out-of-the-way stuff, but there probably isn't much between them and the Warner on the mainstream films. Hmmph.
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Date: 2004-01-12 02:19 pm (UTC)Come! Let's run amok!!!!
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:50 pm (UTC)Yee HAH!
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Date: 2004-01-12 02:28 pm (UTC)I suggest Peter Pan, Cold Mountain sounds too depressing for a birthday-related celebration.
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-12 02:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-12 02:31 pm (UTC)AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:53 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-01-12 02:45 pm (UTC)I think some of the dialogue in the Denethor-Boromir-Faramir scene sucks ("Elrond of Rivendell has called a meeting...") and wish I had had just a minute with the script.
I wish you had too. I loved the scene but hated that line with a passion; it's wrong on so many levels that I nearly posted a huge rant in my LJ about it. If it irritates me as much this time around I still might.
Have a great birthday. I haven't seen Cold Mountain yet, but that's the one I'd probably choose. It's had mixed reviews but the trailer looked good. On the other hand you could just go and see ROTK again *g*.
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Date: 2004-01-12 02:48 pm (UTC)This ain't your goddam living room.
Damn straight.
It's been my impression that the arts cinema tends to attract a better-behaved audience than the McCinema, but that may be more of a condemnation of the latter than anything else :/ Audiences, the death of cinema.
I turn thirty-two this week
Aargh, aaargh, parental wedding anniversary and I haven't got them a card yet, aaaargh!
Oh, and hope your birthday is a good'un ;) Go and see RotK again, you know you want to. How many times is it now?
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:57 pm (UTC)Five times for RotK now. I think... I may have lost count. I *think* it's five!
Eek, hope you get the anniversary card sorted out!
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Date: 2004-01-12 11:24 pm (UTC)Ah, well, we have the EE now. You can always mute the sound for the clunky bits :)
Eek, hope you get the anniversary card sorted out!
It's the same day as your b'day. So there will be no card on time for the event this year. Oh, well, I'll congratulate them in email, and send a card for later.
I don't know why I don't shop for an anni. card when I'm getting the Christmas cards. I always get caught by surprise by the anniversary thing, in the whole post-holiday breath-catching business.
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Date: 2004-01-13 08:12 am (UTC)Have a great birthday!
Date: 2004-01-12 04:34 pm (UTC)Re: Have a great birthday!
Date: 2004-01-12 11:05 pm (UTC)Re: Have a great birthday!
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Date: 2004-01-12 06:52 pm (UTC)I voted for PP as being silly, whimsical, and I've just read some fascinating stuff about Barrie in that Lurie book. And, you'll go and see RotK again v. soon anyway.
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Date: 2004-01-12 10:54 pm (UTC)I think it will be Peter Pan. The trailers looked brilliant. And I suspect I will manage a few more viewings of RotK before it goes...
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Date: 2004-01-12 11:17 pm (UTC)Ah, Elrond of Rivendell has called a meeting...
I find that the suckiness of that line depends on how you imagine its backstory whilst watching. Having a mental picture of Elrond sending out invitations to his secret council meeting is definitely sucky. But then I got the idea of Denethor having Seen what was going on chez Elrond. The line's much palatable that way (despite the power of Vilya probably making it impossible!) :)
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Date: 2004-01-12 11:48 pm (UTC)Dear Steward of Gondor,
I cordially invite you to attend my Fate of the Free World Secret Council Session, to be held this coming fall in Imladris. Dress is casual; although travel-stained garments are acceptable, guests MUST bathe and comb their hair before appearing. Following the Council Meeting, a free poetry-reading session and sing-along will be held in the Hall of Fire. I do hope you will be able to attend this special one-time event!
RSVP
Elrond Half-Elven,
Lord of Imladris
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Date: 2004-01-13 12:30 am (UTC)And happy birthday, by the way!
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Date: 2004-01-13 08:47 am (UTC)skip all three and the DVDs and...
Date: 2004-01-13 03:13 am (UTC)Re: skip all three and the DVDs and...
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Date: 2004-01-13 10:41 am (UTC)Oh, amen to that.
I'm amazed there were talkers there at a matinee. That makes me very sad. I usually frequent midweek matinees in order to get away from the chatty types. *sigh*
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Date: 2004-01-13 11:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-01-13 04:16 pm (UTC)*does celebratory birthday dance*
Enjoy some champagne, and see Peter Pan and RotK. C'mon, you know you want to... ;) Heck, maybe *that's* what I'll do for my birthday! I hadn't figured out what to do, besides perhaps go rollerskating, trying to relive my 1980's youth.
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Date: 2004-01-13 04:47 pm (UTC)I went for Peter Pan in the end, and we'll be drinking later. My other half got back yesterday from a week away in the US, which was a good birthday present in itself :-D
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Date: 2004-01-13 05:58 pm (UTC)Thanks! I have now figured out how to at least change colors and font sizes, so you're being lauded over at my LJ. *giggle*
Yeah, I'm thinking that I haven't had a whiskey sour in a long time. Perhaps a good birthday beverage instead of champagne.