Doctor Who: season 6
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altarielThe Troughton era comes to its conclusion. Hear our thorts! Marvel at our insight! Then go about your business.
The Dominators
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mraltariel: Let's face it, the Quarks are not very good.
altariel: No.
mraltariel: They're not good even in their own narrative context.
altariel: No.
mraltariel: This story starts out quite promisingly and then completely falls apart. It's not actively bad, but it just meanders around purposelessly for five episodes.
altariel: The problem is that it completely lacks a B-plot. There's barely enough material for a four-parter, and what there is isn't very interesting.
mraltariel: It's not actively bad, it's competently boring.
altariel: FAIL.
The Mind Robber
mraltariel: I don't like 'The Mind Robber'. Actually watching it, it seems quite good. But it leaves a "that was crap" aftertaste.
altariel: I don't like stories about clambering into books. It's a conceit that irritates me. Having said that, this is one of the least irritating versions I've come across. I think I'd rather watch this than read another of those coy Jasper Ffordes for example.
mraltariel: And who wouldn't like Zoe's spangly jumpsuit.
altariel: Well quite!
The Invasion
mraltariel: This isn't as good as I remember either. However, it is considerably elevated by an all-round brilliant guest cast. I think the problem is that the "who's the villain" plot is slightly spoiled by knowing Lethbridge-Stewart, and it's dragged out over too many episodes.
altariel: I loved it. It gave good minion: "Pack-errrr!" And: dude! ANIMATED EPISODES!
The Krotons
mraltariel: I have a sekrit loving for "The Krotons".
altariel: I know. I do not.
mraltariel: "ALL GONDS LEAVE THE HALL!" in a South African bass is one of my favourite DW quotes.
altariel: I know.
mraltariel: It also has some good Bob-alogue--
altariel: Technical term.
mraltariel: --especially between Jamie and the scientist.
altariel: Jameh! Jameh! Jamie and Zoe are awesome.
mraltariel: They're vying with Ian and Barbara for my new favourite companions.
altariel: Wait till we've seen "The War Games".
The Seeds of Death
mraltariel: This was surprisingly rubbish. Substantially better than "The Ice Warriors" from last year, or "The Moonbase", which is the same story.
altariel: Well, that was a thing that happened to me.
mraltariel: I can safely say it won't be happening again.
altariel: Can we watch one without pictures now?
The Space Pirates
mraltariel: I was expecting this to be total rubbish because everyone has always told me it is. It isn't.
altariel: It was a lark.
mraltariel: With some proper nasty bits as well.
altariel: Not much in the way of narrative suspense, but fun getting there.
The War Games
mraltariel: This has always been one of my favourites, despite the fact that structurally it is just ten consecutive episodes of getting captured and escaping.
altariel: You bloody don't notice it. It's a cracker. I was on the edge of my seat with this. All the guest cast are fantastic, from the Barbara-and-Ian style Lady Jennifer and Carstairs, to tiny wee David Troughton's tiny wee scene of great intensity.
mraltariel: And then Philip Madoc turns up (for his second appearance of the season).
altariel: Philip Fucking Madoc! I would never have recognized him if you hadn't said! God, he's brilliant!
mraltariel: And then Gulliver shows up as a Time Lord!
altariel: Philip Madoc! Philip Fucking Madoc! I'm still not past that.
mraltariel: I know.
altariel: The other thing that's brilliant is the sense of impending doom. That alarm going off all the time, it's like the klaxon in "Blake".
mraltariel: And when the Time Lords make their power felt, it's really ominous.
altariel: Absolutely. And it's heart-breaking that they catch Troughton, of all the Doctors to get nobbled by the authorities.
mraltariel: And the direction is really imaginative. It's like they're all bothering for the last story.
altariel: Imagine if they did this every story: it would be the BEST TV SHOW EVAH.
Ranking
The War Games
The Invasion
The Space Pirates
The Krotons
The Seeds of Death
The Mind Robber
The Dominators
mraltariel: So, the Troughton era. The stories continue their general decline in quality since Hartnell's second season. And we've seen amongst the best (Jamie and Zoe) and worst (Victoria) of the companions we've ever had. However, in this last season, there have been some glimpses of how you can make good Doctor Who even when you've exhausted all the basic plots.
altariel: Yes, things like "The Web of Fear" and "Fury from the Deep". And of course, like you said, there's nothing remarkable about the plot of "The War Games", but the energy and belief that's put into it make it something special.
mraltariel: That said, they're going to need to give it a kick up the arse if it's going to carry on.
altariel: I think they should make it in colour and on film.
mraltariel: And - and I cannot stress this enough - they should avoid throwing away the pictures.
altariel: Yes, that would help.
The Dominators
mraltariel: Let's face it, the Quarks are not very good. altariel: No.mraltariel: They're not good even in their own narrative context.altariel: No.mraltariel: This story starts out quite promisingly and then completely falls apart. It's not actively bad, but it just meanders around purposelessly for five episodes. altariel: The problem is that it completely lacks a B-plot. There's barely enough material for a four-parter, and what there is isn't very interesting. mraltariel: It's not actively bad, it's competently boring.altariel: FAIL.The Mind Robber
mraltariel: I don't like 'The Mind Robber'. Actually watching it, it seems quite good. But it leaves a "that was crap" aftertaste. altariel: I don't like stories about clambering into books. It's a conceit that irritates me. Having said that, this is one of the least irritating versions I've come across. I think I'd rather watch this than read another of those coy Jasper Ffordes for example. mraltariel: And who wouldn't like Zoe's spangly jumpsuit. altariel: Well quite!The Invasion
mraltariel: This isn't as good as I remember either. However, it is considerably elevated by an all-round brilliant guest cast. I think the problem is that the "who's the villain" plot is slightly spoiled by knowing Lethbridge-Stewart, and it's dragged out over too many episodes. altariel: I loved it. It gave good minion: "Pack-errrr!" And: dude! ANIMATED EPISODES!The Krotons
mraltariel: I have a sekrit loving for "The Krotons".altariel: I know. I do not. mraltariel: "ALL GONDS LEAVE THE HALL!" in a South African bass is one of my favourite DW quotes. altariel: I know. mraltariel: It also has some good Bob-alogue--altariel: Technical term. mraltariel: --especially between Jamie and the scientist. altariel: Jameh! Jameh! Jamie and Zoe are awesome. mraltariel: They're vying with Ian and Barbara for my new favourite companions. altariel: Wait till we've seen "The War Games".The Seeds of Death
mraltariel: This was surprisingly rubbish. Substantially better than "The Ice Warriors" from last year, or "The Moonbase", which is the same story. altariel: Well, that was a thing that happened to me. mraltariel: I can safely say it won't be happening again. altariel: Can we watch one without pictures now?The Space Pirates
mraltariel: I was expecting this to be total rubbish because everyone has always told me it is. It isn't. altariel: It was a lark.mraltariel: With some proper nasty bits as well. altariel: Not much in the way of narrative suspense, but fun getting there. The War Games
mraltariel: This has always been one of my favourites, despite the fact that structurally it is just ten consecutive episodes of getting captured and escaping. altariel: You bloody don't notice it. It's a cracker. I was on the edge of my seat with this. All the guest cast are fantastic, from the Barbara-and-Ian style Lady Jennifer and Carstairs, to tiny wee David Troughton's tiny wee scene of great intensity. mraltariel: And then Philip Madoc turns up (for his second appearance of the season).altariel: Philip Fucking Madoc! I would never have recognized him if you hadn't said! God, he's brilliant!mraltariel: And then Gulliver shows up as a Time Lord!altariel: Philip Madoc! Philip Fucking Madoc! I'm still not past that. mraltariel: I know. altariel: The other thing that's brilliant is the sense of impending doom. That alarm going off all the time, it's like the klaxon in "Blake". mraltariel: And when the Time Lords make their power felt, it's really ominous. altariel: Absolutely. And it's heart-breaking that they catch Troughton, of all the Doctors to get nobbled by the authorities. mraltariel: And the direction is really imaginative. It's like they're all bothering for the last story. altariel: Imagine if they did this every story: it would be the BEST TV SHOW EVAH.Ranking
The War Games
The Invasion
The Space Pirates
The Krotons
The Seeds of Death
The Mind Robber
The Dominators
mraltariel: So, the Troughton era. The stories continue their general decline in quality since Hartnell's second season. And we've seen amongst the best (Jamie and Zoe) and worst (Victoria) of the companions we've ever had. However, in this last season, there have been some glimpses of how you can make good Doctor Who even when you've exhausted all the basic plots. altariel: Yes, things like "The Web of Fear" and "Fury from the Deep". And of course, like you said, there's nothing remarkable about the plot of "The War Games", but the energy and belief that's put into it make it something special. mraltariel: That said, they're going to need to give it a kick up the arse if it's going to carry on. altariel: I think they should make it in colour and on film. mraltariel: And - and I cannot stress this enough - they should avoid throwing away the pictures. altariel: Yes, that would help.
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