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[personal profile] altariel
Obviously, it's only in my head that DS9 would win this BBC poll to discover 'the definitive Trek', but no way should it be lagging behind Voyager, fer chrissakes, so go and do your duty and remember - this matters!

Date: 2006-09-04 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iainjcoleman.livejournal.com
Sorry, but I had to vote for The Wrath of KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!

Date: 2006-09-04 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Gerrorf my journal!

Date: 2006-09-04 10:42 am (UTC)
muninnhuginn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] muninnhuginn
It was tempting, that, just for the sticking nasty creatures in ears moment. Oh, and Khan himself.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:54 pm (UTC)
ext_6322: (Garak)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
That's OK, as long as you go and cast ten votes for DS9 to atone for it.

Date: 2006-09-04 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterboy1.livejournal.com
I suppose it depends how people understand the question, and I'm not whether 'definitive Trek' means the same as 'best film/series'? (You may want to repeat this to yourself every time you check the current standings. :-))

Date: 2006-09-04 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Screw how people understand it! In no right world should DS9 lag behind Voyager in a poll, unless it's a: "We are cold and need to burn something" kind of poll ;-D

Date: 2006-09-04 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterboy1.livejournal.com
:-D

I recently found S1 of Voyager on DVD very cheap, and picked it up, thinking that maybe I'd been too harsh in the past. I hadn't.

Date: 2006-09-04 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I've tried very hard with Voyager but haven't succeeded.

Date: 2006-09-04 11:59 am (UTC)
ext_6322: (Deep)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
I have a sneaking affection for Voyager. I think it's better than early Next Generation (when I saw the first season of that again, I thought "Oh, yes, that's why I gave up on it when they originally showed it.") Obviously TNG became much better, once it hit its stride (Raiker growing a beard and being written as a proper character struck me as a key moment), but I like Voyager precisely because of its flaws. I look at late TNG and think "Yes, they were trying to do that, and they did it very well" (and on those grounds, I'd probably accept it as "definitive Trek"). But I look at Voyager and start thinking about how I'd fix it. With TNG there's nothing to fix, so I admire the ensemble acting and pass on.

For the purposes of this poll, of course, I am taking "definitive Trek" to mean "the single series which justifies the existence of the whole of the rest of Trek, before and after, though I'm not very bothered whether I see any of the others again".

Date: 2006-09-04 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] espresso-addict.livejournal.com
I felt I ought to support an sf series with a female lead, but Janeway always annoyed me.

Date: 2006-09-04 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitterboy1.livejournal.com
Me too. I wanted to like it, I really did.

Date: 2006-09-04 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com
I had the same problem. First they talk about the "definitive" series, which surely has to be TOS. Then they talked about voting for the one that you prefer, which was what I decided to do. I voted for TNG, though had I seen more than about two episodes of DS9 (which I confess seemed very good), perhaps I might have voted for it.

Date: 2006-09-04 08:54 pm (UTC)
ext_6322: (Garak)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
Just take our word for it, and go and do some more voting!

Date: 2006-09-04 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
Duty done!

Date: 2006-09-04 10:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-09-04 10:43 am (UTC)
muninnhuginn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] muninnhuginn
Done. I rather liked DS9, too. Voyager=too much Q.

What a confusing list tho', some movies plus the series.

Date: 2006-09-04 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
It was a bit of a strange list, not all the movies were there (and I like First Contact.

Date: 2006-09-04 10:49 am (UTC)
muninnhuginn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] muninnhuginn
I have a real soft spot for The Search for Spock (It's one of those, er... afflictions it's unsafe to mention in polite society. Rather like enjoying Stephen, ahem, Donaldson.)

Date: 2006-09-04 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I enjoyed it again watching it recently. This journal is definitely a cheese-safe zone ;-)

Date: 2006-09-04 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halimede.livejournal.com
I have done my bit. :)

Date: 2006-09-04 10:44 am (UTC)

Date: 2006-09-04 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sallymn.livejournal.com
I'm very obedient, and have obeyed :)

Date: 2006-09-04 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Hooray! :-D

Date: 2006-09-04 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aervir.livejournal.com
Why haven't they got Star Trek: The Animated Series as an option?

Date: 2006-09-04 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
A terrible oversight.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:06 pm (UTC)
ext_6322: (Deep 2)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
I would write and explain to them why DS9 is the best, but I can't find the contact link on the page... there must be one, somewhere, because the first time I voted Whoopi Goldberg was a recurring character in DS9 and the second time she'd gone back to TNG, so obviously someone pointed it out in those five minutes.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
There's a "have your say" link on the left hand side, but even clicking on that, none of the stories there are the Trek one. Hmph.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:16 pm (UTC)
ext_6322: (Deep 2)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
I know. [Sighs, and votes again] Our percentage seems to be dropping, too.

Date: 2006-09-04 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I've been trying hard all morning, but the misguided Voyager folk seem to be out in force...

Date: 2006-09-04 07:16 pm (UTC)
ext_6322: (Deep)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
Looking slightly better when I went and fired a few more votes at the target just now, but still ground to make up.

Date: 2006-09-06 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Wahey! It just snuck ahead!

Deep Space Nine
9.09%
Voyager
9.08%

Date: 2006-09-06 05:08 pm (UTC)
ext_6322: (Deep)
From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
So it has! It was still 0.05 behind last time I voted, but we clearly have greater stamina, and I was always confident we could pull ahead.

Now, if we just go on voting for the next few years, we may be able to beat TNG.

Date: 2006-09-06 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Niners Are Not Linear.

Date: 2006-09-04 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steverogerson.livejournal.com
Just voted for DS9

Date: 2006-09-04 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
*thumbs up*

Date: 2006-09-04 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bill-leisner.livejournal.com
I do hope the BBC is tracking the IP addresses of those voting for Voyager, and forwarding on the contact information to the appropriate mental health service providers.

One more vote for DS9.

Date: 2006-09-04 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
*snort!* That'd be public service broadcasting at its best.

I left my heart in San Francisco

Date: 2006-09-04 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm sorry, I'm a Next Genner by nature, and though I absolutely agree with you that DS9 beats Voyager by a mile, if you give me the choice of "The Voyage Home" I'm going to vote for it.

So I did.

Please don't send Garak after me.

Dwim, cowering

Re: I left my heart in San Francisco

Date: 2006-09-04 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
*gasp!*

Oh, all right, I'll let you off. Although Garak says he may stop by to say, "Hello..."

Re: I left my heart in San Francisco

Date: 2006-09-04 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm sure I'm not worthy of Garak's particular brand of culturally psychotic cultured attention. Please tell him not to trouble himself, and have I mentioned what a presence he was on the show...?

Dwim, heading for the hills... of which there are few in Chicagoland

Re: I left my heart in San Francisco

Date: 2006-09-05 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
have I mentioned what a presence he was on the show...?

Garak acknowledges your kind words. He hopes how well he was dressed also crossed your attention...?

Re: I left my heart in San Francisco

Date: 2006-09-05 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
He hopes how well he was dressed also crossed your attention...?

Really, it almost goes without saying. I applaud his resistance to spandex.

Dwim

Date: 2006-09-04 06:22 pm (UTC)
paranoidangel: PA (Default)
From: [personal profile] paranoidangel
There are a few of the others I might say were definitive, but not Voyager. Who are these 8.75% people (as of when I voted for DS9 as ordered)? And are they living on the same planet as the rest of us?

Date: 2006-09-04 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Maybe they're in the Delta Quadrant too.

Cute icon!

Date: 2006-09-04 09:31 pm (UTC)
paranoidangel: PA (Default)
From: [personal profile] paranoidangel
Maybe! and thanks - someone else did the base, I just added the words.

Date: 2006-09-04 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
Gone and done, Ma'am - although my heart actually beats for the good old crappy original series. But we must beat Voyager, yeah!

Date: 2006-09-05 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
We're nearly there!

Date: 2006-09-05 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
(katlinel at work)

Have voted from work too since that is a completely different matter to me voting from home.

Sadly, DS9 is lagging again. On the other hand, the DS9 bar is pretty pink, whereas the Voyager one is icky, greenish mustard yellow.

I like Janeway. I'd have liked it even better if only it had consisted entirely of Janeway, Tuvok, Seven, The (EMH) Doctor, B'Elanna and Seska. And possibly it would have been better if their return to the Alpha Quadrant had been followed by a wave of Delta Quadrant armies, united under their desire to give the Federation, as represented by Voyager, a jolly good thrashing for all the imperialism they displayed on the way home, along with accompanying claims for humongous compensation for all the damage inflicted. 'Cos if their soldiers couldn't bring down the Federation, the backup force of accountants and lawyers and environmentalists would.

Date: 2006-09-06 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
the DS9 bar is pretty pink, whereas the Voyager one is icky, greenish mustard yellow

Which says more than any statistics ever could.

Damn, but your version of Voyager is so cool.

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