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Quick fly-by post to link to this marvellous essay reading "The Eleventh Hour" alongside Powell and Pressburger's A Matter of Life and Death.

Date: 2010-04-15 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] communicator.livejournal.com
I know you have to fly, but I just wanted to say I think the two episodes so far have crammed more cultural references and echoes into an hour and a half than I thought possible

Date: 2010-04-15 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Eee, plz to be posting at length! I'll be back later this afternoon to read! (Or will it be twelve years?)

Date: 2010-04-15 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] communicator.livejournal.com
I noticed a lot of posts saying that each episode was 'an obvious reference to x' but everyone had picked a different x.

I can't remember them all but for the best below - Cities in Flight, Discworld, Hitchiker's guide, 2000AD, Demon Headmaster, Omelas, It, Futurama for example

Date: 2010-04-15 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
There was Star Wars and Red Dwarf too.

Date: 2010-04-15 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] communicator.livejournal.com
I can't remember how I got to 'for the best below' - that's some weird edit from two other half-sentences - but yes

Date: 2010-04-15 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
It really reminds me of Doctor Who as well... ;-)

Date: 2010-04-15 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] communicator.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, I meant the name of the bloody episode. God I am going to have to take more care with typing.

Date: 2010-04-15 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Oh - I was just joshing about all the influences, nothing to do with your typing. I totally followed what you'd written.

Date: 2010-04-18 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gair.livejournal.com
And Winnie the Pooh, with Tigger repeatedly getting his favourite food wrong!

(I will read the essay eventually, but in the meantime - A Matter of Life and Death! Of course! I spent about ten minutes of a taxi ride trying, with [livejournal.com profile] gerald and a not-very-enthusiastic taxi driver, to remember the title, and didn't get any further than Heavenly Creatures, and I knew that was wrong!)

Date: 2010-04-15 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com
If you have to fly, to extend the metaphor I hope you don't encounter any clouds of volcanic dust. :)

That was a very interest article, though I felt that some of it was a bit of a stretch. I especially loved one quote from Steven Moffat that I hadn't seen before: Although it is watched by far more adults than children, there’s something fundamental in its DNA that makes it a children’s programme and it makes children of everyone who watches it. If you’re still a grown up by the end of that opening music, you’ve not been paying attention.

Date: 2010-04-15 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Lawks, I've only just seen that news story!

Date: 2010-04-15 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sensiblecat.livejournal.com
Really appreciate you pointing out these academic pieces on DW. I've posted a bit of stuff myself about the different styles of SM and RTD and some fantasy references I spotted in TEH and TBB.

Have a good trip, hope the dust doesn't affect your flying plans.

Date: 2010-04-15 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I've had a hectic few weeks, so I'm just catching up on LJ. Looking forward to reading your posts.

(I'm travelling by train rather than plane, and only tomorrow!)

Date: 2010-04-15 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parrot-knight.livejournal.com
It's an excellent essay, I find, flagging up a lot of points, including the need to watch everything twice!

Date: 2010-04-15 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I have a feeling that you're the person who directed me to it (sorry, I'm a bit stressed and spaced out at the moment), so thank you for that. The whole site is gold.

Date: 2010-04-15 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parrot-knight.livejournal.com
The Play for Today section is particularly valuable, bringing it out of the shadow of The Wednesday Play.

Date: 2010-04-15 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
Lovely - thank you for the link. It's celebrating Doctor Who in the best possible way.

Date: 2010-04-15 04:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-15 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
Thank you for the link. Site now bookmarked!

Date: 2010-04-15 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Smashing site, isn't it?

Date: 2010-04-15 04:18 pm (UTC)

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