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Quite a few of them rattling around the Altariel headspace at the moment.

The Plot Against America by Philip Roth. Posits the defeat of FDR in the 1940 presidential race, and the election of pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic former air-ace Charles Lindbergh. Roth puts his own family into this situation: a Jewish family living in Newark (Philip starts the book as a seven-year old boy). And very meticulously researched it is, and superb on the growing paranoia of all groups concerned (and the manipulation of public feeling). But you're left at the end with a sense of - well, that was an impressive technical exercise, but what was the point? Because Roth, horror of horrors, pulls the winky-winky lever (technical term): Lindbergh disappears in suspicious circumstances while flying his plane in 1942, and Roosevelt comes back to power in a special election. History's back on track.

Now, I don't have anything against AUs that take a narrow time window, interrupt it in some fashion, and then put things back as they were (I'm writing one right now). And I assume that what's going on is some kind of allegory to the current situation in America, but there's no kind of textual acknowledgement of this, no kind of ironizing of our current history - or maybe I'm too dense to work out what's being done (as a side note, I'm not convinced that history could be set back on track after some of Roth's interruptions: he makes a big deal of the first pogrom on American soil - could things ever be the same again?)

Anyway, I think Christopher Priest does it better in The Separation: by holding up both futures (our own and the alternate) and putting them side for you to look at, compare and constrast. So, ultimately, I felt - nice job, but... why?

Death of a President: drama-documentary with a near-future setting, following what happens after George W. Bush is assassinated after giving a speech in Chicago in 2007. I had been expecting something pretty sensationalist, and in fact it was very low-key, very measured, very well made. It didn't make the world's subtlest point, but it was a good point, and worth making.

The Amazing Mrs Pritchard: Well, I suspect this is probably going to turn out to be pish, and you know it's all a mighty long way from A Very British Coup, but - god help me - I quite enjoyed episode 1. Because I'm not going to see Tony Blair concede an election any other way, am I? Mrs Pritchard herself is a vile busybody, and her husband is tediously opposed to her political career (I just think it would have been more fun for him to be a more bewildered version of Denis Thatcher than an excuse for CONFLICT). And there's some weird gender stuff going on (i.e. what democracy needs is an infusion of Women's Innate Good Sense!). But I'll watch on, out of sheer fascination, and because I think it's quite positive to put something on prime time going, "Politics is really, really important, and you can do something about it!"

Children of Men: Bloody bloody bloody hell, that was outstanding.

Date: 2006-10-12 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldritchhobbit.livejournal.com
I can't wait to see Children of Men!

Date: 2006-10-12 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
It's first rate, if harrowing, stuff.

Date: 2006-10-12 12:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kerravonsen
Oooh, I just looked at the trailer fro "Children of Men", it does look very promising. I wonder when they'll show it here.

Date: 2006-10-12 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I'll be interested to read what you think of it.

Date: 2006-10-12 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com
Yes, I went with [livejournal.com profile] steverogerson when I was in Nottingham. I made a couple of comments under [livejournal.com profile] communicator's post on the film (http://communicator.livejournal.com/366042.html), which is worth reading for more interesting comments from other people.

Date: 2006-10-12 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com
What about "Denethor Lives" by Altariel?
*nudge, nudge, wink, wink*

Date: 2006-10-13 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Can't remember if you've been reading or not, but I've been posting chapters of it while I've been writing: tagged under Withered Tree.

Date: 2006-10-13 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
January is my month for working on that!

Date: 2006-10-13 07:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kerravonsen
I prefer not to read works-in-progress if I can help it. Nothing personal, I just hate waiting for the whole story, and the waiting is worse if I've already started reading it.

Date: 2006-10-13 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Of course, I knew that already but had forgotten. And it is taking me a while to get the thing finished, a chapter a year at this rate :-(

Date: 2006-10-12 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forodwaith.livejournal.com
I can't wait to see Children of Men! (I may have a small Clive Owen problem, but nothing I can't handle.)

So what happens after George W. Bush is assassinated?

Date: 2006-10-13 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
Clive Owen is surprisingly sympathetic in Children of Men. [livejournal.com profile] communicator described him thus: "He reminds you (well, he reminds me) of someone you were once in love with."

How spoilery do you want me to get with Death of a President? I think it was getting a cinema release in your part of the world.

Date: 2006-10-12 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edge-of-ruin.livejournal.com
Now, I don't have anything against AUs that take a narrow time window, interrupt it in some fashion, and then put things back as they were (I'm writing one right now).

*prod, prod*

I might just stir myself and go and see Children of Men

Date: 2006-10-13 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
*prod, prod*

January is my Withered Tree month.

Children of Men is brilliant, but harrowing. Tons of symbolism.

Date: 2006-10-15 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
We went to see Children of Men this afternoon. It was very, very good. Very bleak, and I loved Cuaron's imagining of the future of British seaside towns. i'm glad Pam Ferris had such a good role - very refreshing to see her on screen. I could nitpick a few things, but they don't detracti from the film as a whole.

The violence was sickening, but then it should be.

Date: 2006-10-16 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I thought there were one or two places near the start where it didn't seem quite sure of itself: there seemed to be characters or story elements that didn't really get picked up, possibly inherited from the book and an earlier draft?

Once they're on the road, though, it's first-rate. I liked that the bits of the nativity story it chose to emphasize: Joseph's part in it all, and the fact that the family were refugees.

And, yes, the violence was awful, but necessary.

Date: 2006-10-16 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com
I thought of some of the first parts as scene setting, even if they didn't move the story along very far. I wouldn't know if they're from the book. I'm not sure if I've read the book. I thought I hadn't but when I've read about bits of the book that other people have talked about, it has seemed very familiar. But I don't know if that's dim memories of other stories that are similar.

I enjoyed the nativity parts as well, even if Maricka's (sp?) little dog wasn't allowed to stand in for the ox and the ass.

Date: 2006-10-16 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com
I read the book ages ago and really liked it, but find now I remember little detail - and my copy has gone walkabout. It's on request from the library.

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