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altariel ([personal profile] altariel) wrote2010-09-02 10:47 pm

Doctor Who: season 17



Destiny of the Daleks
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I have very strong memories of this story.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Me too.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I think it's... well, it's fine, isn't it? A better version of Genesis.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Better because shorter. Not quite as well executed. Good cliffhangers.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: And the most diverse casting of any story so far. I feel I should be more enthusiastic, but, you know, it's a four-part Dalek story. Which comedy costume does Romana have in this one?
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Princess Astra, you mean?
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: No, Romana regenerated...
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: What? Romana regenerated? I thought she'd left!!
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: This is going to be a long season.

City of Death
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Well, what can you say? It's lovely.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: You can say that. And you'd be right.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Look, there's Eleanor Bron!
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Yum.

The Creature from the Pit
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: This was great. This was just great.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: See, I told you I wasn't mad!
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: It was the costumes. The design. The hats. The wolf weeds.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: The giant plastic bag monster! And it passes the Bechdel test.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I'm sorry Adrasta doesn't get away with it. I think we're seeing propaganda from the Chloris Metal Megacorp PR department. All the bitching about big government is amazing in these last couple of seasons.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: It's almost like 1978 was rubbish.

Nightmare of Eden
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Oh, now, this was quite interesting! You can see a direct line from it to The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. That's what the future looks like. Yellow, but a bit grubby.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: The mystery aspect of the plot is a bit botched in the edit. But David Daker holds it together in the first episode despite that.

The Horns of Nimon
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Oh holy Christ. Poor Lalla Ward. She's giving it everything. I think she earned her fee.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: She is quite good at the vehement angry stuff. I quite like this.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: The Nimon are wearing platform boots.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: And velour figure-hugging tops!
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I blame Marc Bolan. Go on, you were quite liking it. Continue.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Not much actually happens, and what does happen is rather spoiled by Graham Crowden, who always does this boggle-eyed pantomime loon thing. Which worked in A Very Peculiar Practice, but it is shite in everything else.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Fighting talk.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Only if Graham's mum is in the room!
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Didn't want to mention it, but...
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Hello Mrs Crowden!

Shada
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Now I think this benefits from not having been completed. I think we have all the good stuff, and none of the padding. And the good stuff is great: Dennis Carey...
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: CHRISTOPHER NEAME! IT'S CHRISTOPHER NEAME!
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I was getting to that. Christopher Neame, Cambridge locations, daft jokes. The only thing that makes me want to kill is the barber shop bunch.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Death is too good for them. Unless any of them have actually died by now, in which case, their loved ones have my deepest sympathies.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Good save. I don't think anyone noticed, like that time we were accidentally mean about Barry Letts.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: I thought we weren't going to mention that again.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Shall we just say then how sad we are every time we see a picture of Douglas Adams?
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Yes. Happysad, though.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel and [livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: Thank you, Douglas xx


Ranking
City of Death
The Creature from the Pit
Nightmare of Eden
Shada
Destiny of the Daleks
The Horns of Nimon

[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Well that was a funny old season. K9 sounds like he's being throttled...
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: And the stories are really suffering from Tom Baker.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: It was all a bit odd and mad, like everyone's minds were slightly elsewhere.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: But still some good stuff, including one of the best stories so far.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I don't think Nimon is one of the best stories so far.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: I meant Creature from the Pit.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: I think it's looking a bit tired. They should shake it up a bit.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: They need to get rid of Tom. He's too dominant.
[livejournal.com profile] altariel: Although I think Lalla Ward carried a good chunk of this season.
[livejournal.com profile] mraltariel: While Tom phoned it in. What's next? Something to do with bees, isn't it?

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You were watching The Five Doctors, the 20th anniversary story from 1983. Tom Baker didn't want to take part so soon after leaving the show, and clips from 'Shada' were used instead.

[identity profile] azalaisdep.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, that explains it, and 1983 would be a plausible sort of date. So I have seen some of Shada after all!

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
And if you've read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency then you've know the story.

[identity profile] azalaisdep.livejournal.com 2010-09-03 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I realised that when I went and looked Shada up on Wikipedia and Professor Chronotis cropped up :-)