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altariel ([personal profile] altariel) wrote2008-08-01 03:13 pm
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Voice from the past

"They tell me you haven't been co-operating."
"No? What's the matter? Did I bleed on the wrong bit of floor?"


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Wow, my Blake's 7 tapes are playing back amazingly. Here's their history. My brother taped them off-air in 1980/1981. He looked after them meticulously, hardly ever watched them, treated them with great care and love, etc. etc.

I inherited them sometime in the late 80s, whereupon I watched them constantly, did that special fannish thing of rewatching over and over the SPECIAL MOMENTS, dragged them up and down the country, let people have the key to my room at college so that they could watch them and rewatch them constantly (doing the SPECIAL MOMENTS thing), then got the tapes (twice), then the DVDs, and left them to languish for a decade in a box under the stairs near a wall which barely kept out the elements. Then I dragged them out today and gaily shoved them in VCR which turned out to have absolutely filthy heads.

And they have repaid me tenderly, with LOYALTY AND LOVE beyond all call of duty. They are like Avon to my Anna. There is a bit of drop-out on 'Rumours of Death' but WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? That too, is a sign of the great love there has long been between us. Bless you, my beloved tapes. You, at least, are not going in the bin. Or, if you do, we'll be going hand-in-hand. Just don't shoot me.

MY GOD, though, you should hear the BBC announcers in 1981! They are unbelievably posh! And see the special Paul Darrow CEEFAX face! I want it on an icon!

[identity profile] gfk88.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose it would have been too heartbreaking if your tapes had just managed to say:

"...I..have..failed..you...I..am...sorry...."

before succumbing to an accumulation of green slime.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
:-) It was a bit like that before the VCR cleaned itself.

[identity profile] katlinel.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You really do know how to fly a dead show!

And now I have Abba's SOS going round my brain again, which is not suprising since I went to see Mamma Mia last night, but this post called up "The love you gave me, nothing less can save me, SOS" but I think it is what the tapes are saying to you, and you are feeling the love again and it SAVED them. As love does.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Strangely enough, there was a lot of Abba content on the tapes, in the half-hour which remains at the end of a three-hour tape which has three episodes of B7 on it.

These tapes are my Super Troopers.
ext_50187: (my most humble apologies master)

[identity profile] jomacmouse.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Feeling like they're number one? :D

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
:-)

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
:-)

[identity profile] raspberryfool.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, sweet VHS, the format that never dies, good thing your dad didn't go Beta (or worse, V2000!), you'd have to send them to me *evil grin*.

I watched Sarcophagus last night on a BBC 1st gen release, the tape has deteriorated somewhat. The second copy i bought to replace the first is awful too, though the rest are fine. But i'm not parting with my B7 tapes either - the cover art is wonderful.

I'm glad the tapes are good, enjoy the nostalgia. What you need now is a 1970's-vintage tv set to watch them on...
kerravonsen: Avon peering through hatch: not so black nor white (Avon-black-white)

[personal profile] kerravonsen 2008-08-01 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But i'm not parting with my B7 tapes either - the cover art is wonderful.

I'm torn about what to do with mine; I mean, I have the DVDs now (except for Season 4) but my BBC videos, some of them have autographs on the covers! What should I do with them?

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Keep them!

I have a full set I bought for heaps of freight when I became a fan a few years ago and that was all there was. I'm keeping them even though I have the DVDs. Because, you know, they're my friends!

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Keep them! Keep them! I've kept my BBC videos too.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hah! Those tellies are great!

I recall the VHS/Beta/V2000 debate happening. I can't remember now why dad settled on VHS, perhaps it was cheaper.

[identity profile] glitterboy1.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really quite amazing, that they're still in such good condition!

I know what you mean about not getting rid of them. I have a few opera recordings that I taped from the library or off the radio, before later getting the same recordings on CD. But I wouldn't get rid of those tapes, with their diligently transcribed labels, their familiar pops and crackles, and, of course, their unfortunate side breaks.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Some of my taped recordings like that have survived the Great Cull :-)

Actually, it was labels I was saddest about, throwing out all these videos: all that heat handwriting carefully archiving what was on them. Oh well, that's what YouTube's for.

[identity profile] glitterboy1.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
carefully archiving what was on them

That was exactly it, wasn't it? I remember being worried that, in the future, I might no longer know some of the details, and I wanted to make sure that they weren't lost forever.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Original B7: I'm impressed! I didn't know they had VCRs back when B7 was on. Isn't that the reason given for bad continuity: that they didn't realise people would one day watch them again (and again)?

We do still have a VCR which we take on holiday with blank tapes to record stuff from TV. It's so slow and 20C though compared to DVD and the TiVo.

[identity profile] raspberryfool.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
You'd be surprised, the first domestic VCR, the Philips VCR was introduced in 1972, Betamax in 1975 and VHS in 1976.

That the home video market hardly existed in 1978, and was embryonic in 1981, was partially to blame for discontinuities. But sometimes they couldn't get the same actors to play the parts. And of course the BBC's budgets were awfully low for an SF TV show. The later seasons are definitely better in that respect, with more narrative planning etc.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure about that; I think the earlier seasons hold together better. :-) YB7MV.

I was thinking more of clothes and hairstyles changing between one episode and the next when only a few minutes had elapsed, and people's outfits changing when they teleport--and that was in S4!

[identity profile] raspberryfool.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Checking Judith's site, it looks like S3 has more errors, though some are technical (wobbly sets, duff matting on Scorpio, and upside-down Liberator which i never noticed - although there's no 'up' in space anyway - etc) and it's probably not a definitive list.

Anyway, that's part of the fun; we know it's not perfect, laugh at the mistakes and still love the series. :-)

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
We were amongst the first people I knew who got a home VCR, in 1980. (I had five teenage/ just post-teenage brothers and sisters, and my dad was sick of all the arguments over what to watch.)

We rented one (far too expensive to buy): the first one was a top-loader with huge levers. The second one had a remote control (gasp!) which had to be connected to the machine by a long cable.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
We rented too; for no increase in fees, we could upgrade to new models every year. And I remember the remote-on-a-cable! I thought that was so cool. I rented when I left home too; the first VCR I owned was a Phillips one that belonged to a flatmate who couldn't keep up the payments. I still have it somewhere. It had some good features too like ejecting tapes and sucking them back in again with the touch of a remote button.

I can't remember when that was though--sometime after you, I'd think. Electronic goods were restricted and very expensive here till the late 80s, and people would go overseas to buy. I think B7 was first shown here in the 80s too, though I can't remember if we recorded it.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
We still rent our TV for exactly that reason: easier to upgrade to something new.

When I went to college (1990), I bought one of those combined TV and video units second-hand: it was unusual to have a telly, never mind a video (hence all those people borrowing my key to watch videos). Being a combo unit, you couldn't watch one channel and tape another, and being second-hand it would occasionally start chewing up tapes (you could save them if you listened for the tell-tale sounds and moved quickly enough). But problems aside it was worth having.

[identity profile] sallymn.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean - I have all 4 seasons on DVD, and really don't know what to do with my box of tapes... but throw them out? Nonononono....

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad to know that all these taped copies exist, so that when a rogue virus destroys all DVD-watching capacity across the globe, we will still be able to watch B7!

[identity profile] sallymn.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
And we'll all have forgotten how to use the damn thing...

[identity profile] emeraldsedai.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You and [livejournal.com profile] executrix make me want to give Blake's 7 another try.

Great tale, well told.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I always feel as if B7 is one of things you need to have seen at the time in order to be able to forgive its shortcomings... although of course there are many many fans who came to it later.
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[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2008-08-04 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's exactly the kind of thing :-)