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altariel ([personal profile] altariel) wrote2005-07-08 04:59 pm

All he needs is the love of a good woman

I rang my mother yesterday to let her know I was OK; mother is in her mid-seventies and vaguer even than me. Anyway, she hadn't been in the least bit worried (I suspect she has no idea where I live in relation to London) so we talked about The Fellowship of the Ring, which someone had got for her on DVD. Mother has made various attempts to read Tolkien (which my dad adored) over the years, and not really got much past the bit about the mushrooms.

So did she enjoy it? It was "very violent". Well, yes, it is - I suppose that's because it's about World War 1. "Is it about WW1?" I think you could make a case for that... "Oh. Does Gandalf live?" Sort of... (Didn't much want to get into an involved explanation.) "I did like that young man." Which young man? "Frodo. He has very expressive eyes."

Yes, my friends, my seventy-five-year-old ma appears to have a crush on Elijah Wood. I moved on quickly. A little time was then spent explaining that there are two more films to sit through.

[identity profile] lame-pegasus.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, my friends, my seventy-five-year-old ma appears to have a crush on Elijah Wood.

Well, she's certainly not the first - and only - one. *grins*

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
:-D It was... an unexpected quarter!

[identity profile] espresso-addict.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect the violence and expressive eye quotients both increment with each film.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
*snorts drink up nose* I wish I'd said that to her.
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, my friends, my seventy-five-year-old ma appears to have a crush on Elijah Wood.

And why not?
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
And Andy's sexiest.

Did you notice from [livejournal.com profile] steverogerson's journal that we saw several Ents in Sherwood Forest? All much more convincing than anything Peter Jackson produced. I want a Campaign for Real Ents.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
Any piccies?

Our back garden turned into forest - I'm sure I saw a couple of Huorns lurking around.
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
One particularly dark-looking one could well have been a Huorn. Sadly, Steve didn't bring a camera. They were mostly what the Forest Centre called stag-head oaks (presumably because sometimes the branches look like antlers) and I call blasted oaks (but apparently it's nothing to do with lightning, they just go like that as the heart rots and starves the upper branches).
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
Or hoom (http://www.boldoutlaw.com/images/stagoak2.jpg). Or hom (http://www.boldoutlaw.com/images/03sher4.jpg).

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Don't be hasty.
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Calm down. They're Ents. Not Ewoks.

[identity profile] archbishopm.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not have a mortal fear of Ewoks. I just feel they bring down the tone of the otherwise subtle and sophisticated Star Wars franchise.

[identity profile] vilakins.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That made me laugh so much it unnerved the cat on my lap.

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
As I said in my non-rave review, Now Is the Winter Of Our Discount Ents.

[identity profile] mistraltoes.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
::groan::

[identity profile] executrix.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Or a hundred of him in matching tasteful black dresses.

[identity profile] the-wild-iris.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
I made several attempts at reading LotR that never got beyond Bilbo giving his stuff away, so I think your mum's doing well. Glad she's enjoying the films.

[identity profile] jhall1.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
You shouldn't let that first chapter put you off. The tone is very different from that of the rest of the novel. (In fact it's much akin to the tone of The Hobbit, which Tolien had written for children rather than adults.)

[identity profile] the-wild-iris.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that was when I was a kid - I have read the whole novel since. I still find the first chapter the most accessible, though :)

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
I've tried a number of sneaky ways over the years: the radio play, three book editions to lessen the pain, artwork. Didn't think the films would be her thing at all.

[identity profile] the-wild-iris.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I persuaded my mum to see Fellowship with me as an act of bonding, although she normally has an aversion to anything fantasy or sci-fi. She called it 'stunning' when we came out of the cinema. Eventually she forgot, and went back to not liking fantasy again.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-09 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm like that with westerns. I don't like them - except for the ones that I've seen.
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[personal profile] kathyh 2005-07-08 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
my seventy-five-year-old ma appears to have a crush on Elijah Wood.

Just shows you're never too old!

My 79-year-old father (though he must have been 78 when he watched it) said it made no sense to him - obviously the Elijah Wood factor didn't work on him.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
And not even the Cate factor? Or Liv?
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[personal profile] kathyh 2005-07-08 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly no. I think he was only watching it so he could tell me he didn't like it *g*. It's all part of an ongoing argument we've been having for at least 35 years on the merits of fantasy literature in general and Tolkien in particular.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-09 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
:-D
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[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Cool!

[identity profile] archbishopm.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
That's sick. Sick and wrong.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
She hasn't seen 'Two Towers' yet, maybe her allegiance will switch Brad-wards.

(Anonymous) 2005-07-08 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
My thirty-five year old soon-to-be apartment mate spent much of his first viewing* of FOTR telling Frodo to grow a pair and get on with it. :D It'll be interesting to see what he makes of TTT...

Dwim

*See my rampant optimism at work. 'Tis only the first viewing!

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
telling Frodo to grow a pair and get on with it. :D

*snort!*
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[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
I was surprised mum complained about the violence since she's been known to sit through some really strong stuff without a blink. I think it might have been the orc faces and so on that did it.
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[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-09 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
Particularly Theoden's transformation.

[identity profile] artaxastra.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
I think your mother must be secretly related to mine. (She's 79.) She shook her head and said it was all very confusing....

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
On previous attempts mum has complained about the names: both oddness, and profusion for single individuals.
kerravonsen: Methos: "Scholar, Friend, Warrior, Death, Enigma, Methos" (Methos)

[personal profile] kerravonsen 2005-07-08 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid that my father (who read the whole darn trilogy onto tape for us when we were kids) didn't manage to sit through the movies because the fast-moving flying camera work (for things like that scene at Orthanc) made him dizzy. And he didn't like the changes from the book.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2005-07-08 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
my father (who read the whole darn trilogy onto tape for us when we were kids)

Wow, do you still have the tapes? My dad did some recordings of comic verse for us; I don't know where the tapes are now, and I think they were reel-to-reel, I doubt we could play them.

(Anonymous) 2005-07-08 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Likewise -- they were reel-to-reel; even if we could find them, we couldn't play them. Ah, the ephemeralness of data formats! Give me a stack of papyrus any day!

[identity profile] metamorphosa.livejournal.com 2005-07-09 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
OH, to have something of INTEREST to put on a reel-to-reel!!! My 8??? grandad who lives a mile away STILL has hit reel-to-reel thingie (what IS the proper name??) that every now and then we have to suffer through. Though I can assure you it CERTAINLY wasn't as fab a topic as LOTR!!!